Monday, July 30
"White chicks represent untouchable goods to imported male Asian action heroes -- be they Li, Chan or Fat -- who are welcomed and rewarded so long as they graciously cartwheel for Western audiences and not threaten the latter's sexual supremacy by appearing as sexual beings."
posted by jon
Wednesday, July 25
Hum. I'm gonna have to think about this.
Another beautiful line from the movie.....as Dorothy first meets the Scarecrow.
(Dorothy) "How can you talk if you haven't got a brain?"
(Scarecrow) "I don't know. But some people without brains do an awful lot of talking, don't they?"
posted by jon
It seems to me that the Wizard is an advocate of the "actions speak louder than words" theory because in accordance with that statement, as long as you are nice and others are satisfied, the intention within you is irrelevant. I would have to agree with the Wizard because i feel like you can only truly become a great man through the opinions of others. One man's actions and compassion cannot be measured internally. There does leave room for the brown nosers and the phonies but men of true heart will emerge through consistent actions. The brown nosers and phonies will eventaully stumble and be revealed for what they are.
posted by Tin
I think that's the implication. But see, i don't know if i can fully agree with that because then you could be reduced to just doing good deeds to curry favor with others. It then seems like the measure of a man's compassion would only be measured by the impressions of others.
posted by jon
Um...deep. So having a kind and generous heart is not judged by how much you care but rather by how much people are willing to care back?
posted by Tin
Just watched The Wizard of Oz again today and was struck by this line that the Wizard says to the Tin Man as he gives him his heart.
"And remember, my sentimental friend...that a heart is not judged by how much you love, but by how much you are loved by others."
posted by jon
Wednesday, July 18
I can see this is gonna be a pointless conversaton today so let me leave you with this, written by the Japanese poet Murasaki Shikaba (whose quote is in my soc book under the relationships and interactions section).
"You are inventing all sorts of feelings for me such as i have never really had at all, and then getting cross with me for having them. That is not a very amiable proceeding, is it?
posted by jon
Great, now you'll have BS theories to back up your regular BS.
posted by Tin
Well yeah. But in a bigger picture, isn't this the kind of stuff that i think about anyway? Friendships, the dynamics of groups, analyzing people?
posted by jon
Let me guess. You want to apply all these psychological theories to your life and your friends.
posted by Tin
Well fine. I skipped some classes to play ball or to do whatever but i did fine anyway. Like i've said before, Baruch classes aren't exactly that deep. What i did get out of my two classes was the terminology and the research to kind of back up social musings and such: About the way people are, how they think and how they react, stuff like that. Social Psych had chapters on friendships, relationships, how people develop over time, the search for worth and happiness. Industrial Psych was more business orientated but had a lot of interesting things that dealt with how groups interact and how leaders emerge. We did a couple of exercises that analyzed the nature of a group's dynamic that made me apply various psychological theories to the social groups that i've been in, whether it's just friends or an organization like Huaren or dance.
posted by jon
"I wasn't exactly a model student." That's just about the biggest understatement i've ever heard in my life. Ha.
posted by Tin
My first summer session of classes are over now and although i wasn't exactly a model student, i did take alot out of my two classes, Social Psych and Industrial Psych.
posted by jon
Sunday, July 8
Nothing i guess.
posted by jon
So you're complaining about what again?
posted by Tin
Well no. I'm not really against it, i'm just saying that it's very strange. Like i'll be explaining to someone how everyone knows each other and i can basically do it in one sentence, "Oh, we all went to Michigan." Then again, it's not like these people aren't enormously interesting or cool. In fact, it's actually easier and more welcoming to have something in common with everyone.
posted by jon
Ah yes. It is a little pathetic. You're stuck in a little Ann Arbor bubble. Spread your wings. Fly.
posted by Tin
But see, even with everyone i know in New York, whether i know them or meet them or whatever, they are all connected somehow with Michigan. She knows a friend of a friend. Or his sister knows this person or whatever. Oftentimes, the only people i'm meeting are people who just went to Michigan. I mean, it's really cool of course, to meet these people who i've never seen on campus before.....but at the same time, i look around and go, am i not making any new friends at all?
posted by jon
It happens. It's a small world. Six degrees of separation. It's not really a new phenomenon. Get over it.
posted by Tin
It amazes me how many people here are connected to Michigan. A few days back, no less than three people recognized somebody i was with from Michigan. Like random people would be running into us all over the place. And then at the poetry slam, the first guy up at the open mike turned out to be somebody that Babbs recognized who also went to Michigan. It's kind of sick actually.
posted by jon
Sunday, July 1
Whole 'nother issue. Let's not get into that.
posted by jon
Starts making you question how much you work to keep your "nice image" alive doesn't it?
posted by Tin
See, that's why when people say that i'm "nice," i kind of deflect it away because i know that all the things i do, i do for purely consciously selfish reasons. I mean, i'm pretty in tune with what i get out of each situation and so i'm constantly weighing if this act will make me happy enough to do it.
posted by jon
It makes sense i guess. It isn't romantic or sexy but it makes sense. Kind of. One can't live by the demands of others all the time.
posted by Tin
Well now, i wouldn't like to think of myself like that and i don't think i "prostitute" myself to their every need but hopefully i make them happy as well as making me happy. There are definitely times and moments when i'm just not really interested or motivated to be "host." But the other times kind of off set it and i come out looking "nice." Which is good, but not necessarily true. I mean i'm nice for sure but exactly how nice can you be and still be yourself? I feel like all the nice things i do, i for myself, which is a good thing. Like, as long as i get something out of it, i'm not being "too nice." That make any sense?
posted by jon
So basically you're admitting that you're only nice so that people will like you. Meaning you do anything to prostitute yourself to have people like you.
posted by Tin
Well, yes, if you had not interupted, i was going to say that this isn't really because i'm a "nice" person. It's more like i enjoy having the responsibility and mantle of being host so in a way it's a selfish desire. On Friends, Phoebe and Joey were trying to figure out if there were any nice deeds that didn't involve self pleasure. Like anything good you did was partly out of a "wow, i'm such a nice person" motivation. I mean, i feel that's very true. People are motivated by only their own selfish goals (not to use selfish in the traditional "evil" light, just selfish as in self serving).
posted by jon
Let me point out that this it for your own self-serving needs. You want people to like you, so thus you are nice. Simple as that.
posted by Tin
I've always had this affinity for being the host. I really enjoy taking people around, showing them things, satisfying their needs and stuff. Not so much in a hotel concierge way but more like trying to make sure people are having a good time. It's like when i'm in a large group and i know some people are feeling uncomfortable i'll try to engage them with the rest of the group or whatnot. When i first meet people i'm pretty cordial and attentive and all that.
posted by jon